STUDENT REVIEWS OF THE ONLINE COURSE
| PL 11 ISSUES IN PHILOSOPHY SUMMER 2001
definitely got what I wanted in this course. That was to understand more
of what philosophy was about. I think I am in a better position to
contemplate the existence of God, souls, etc..., and it was absolutely
worth the time, effort and labor that I put into it.
only thing that I can think that would make this course better, (and I
doubt it would be possible because of the nature of the course), would be
to initiate a type of instant message feature that would enable instant
feedback on comments made by the students. This way a discussion could
take place without having to wait for a response from an individual, and
possibly losing your train of thought. As I said before this probably
couldn't happen because the course is designed so that everyone doesn't
need to be logged on at the same time. Maybe a solution would be to
designate a specific time of the day where students could log on and participate
in and instant message type of dialogue. I don't know if that would be
possible or not, but it might make for more interesting discussions.
I think that it would be more like a class setting if all students needed to be logged on at the same time, but for me I work and have an infant so the best time for me to go on was early in the morning, late at night or on Sundays. I think that logging in when you can is very beneficial to the online program.
to admit it, but I needed to have a dictionary alongside my lap top as I
was reading the modules. The
course is difficult enough, I thought at the beginning, without having to
look up every third or fourth word just to make sense of what was being
course progressed, however, I found I needed the dictionary less and less
and was actually making sense of the lectures and discussions more
discussions were exhilarating! The
course layout was so convenient...I could log on two or three times a day,
even after being out all day, if I wasn't tired, I found I was anxious to
see if any of the students had responded to my comments or questions.
was a tough course, probably one of the toughest, if not THE toughest I
have ever taken. But I stayed
with it because I knew it would make me a better person for it.
I was really curious to see what part philosophy could actually
play in my life. I needed to
stay with it to find out.
I don't think I will feel or realize all of the effects immediately, I
know many of the issues we discussed, the opposing views I was exposed to,
and the truthful, consistent prodding by the professor to think, think,
think WILL have a lasting effect on how I view and ultimately deal with
situations which arise in the future.
I have developed a new motto: question, don't just settle.
course was NOT what I was expecting!! I have taken many other online
classes and this one was the toughest by far.
BUT.... I did gain the most knowledge with this course.
It was knowledge that I do not think I could have learned from
reading a textbook. I obviously
learned from the readings and to do the papers, but finding out others
opinions was much more beneficial to me than anything else.
In other courses we would make one discussion question for the week
or 3 days and that would be it. Not
many read others input, it was too much of a pain to download into a word
document (to be honest) But how this class was set up with the discussions
questions it was much more effective.
This class to be honest was a real challenge for me.
One that I almost wanted to give up in a time or two.
But i stuck through it, I worked through the grades, and the
discussions when I thought everyone was not with me on the same thought
path. And IT WAS WORTH IT!! Thanks
what you mean about this being a tough course. But we got through it, and that's what counts.
Now we can all add the word tenacious to our character traits.
And we have Professor Pecorino to thank for his persistence in not
giving up on us.
Not what I expected...
expected this to be pretty easy, but I had to work my butt off to achieve
the level of grade that I did. After thinking about this course since my
last post I decided that maybe a different text book should be used or at
least another one should be added to help the students get a better grasp
on the material. I know that would add a few extra chapters of reading per
week, but I for one would find it very beneficial and I bet a few others
would as well.
don't think any more reading is required.
I do think that it could be "not required but helpful"
but more required reading for a 3 credit course is too much.
too thought about quitting this class, but the discussions were lively and
I decided to stay and become a survivor!
definitely got more out of this course than I thought I would.
The reading got to be a bit tough, but I think that is just because
it was a seven week course and we had to jam everything in.
I would have enjoyed having a few "live chat" sessions set up; where we can all "talk" and get feedback instantly from our classmates. Other than that, I can't think of any other improvements. Once you walked through the steps of the set-up (and set up your folder) and once you learned how to navigate around the folders, it was easy. It was very convenient having sites linked to the text pages so that we could read them. There was a lot of additional references given out for us to read.
Grade A course
really liked this course a lot. I
definitely got more out of it than I had ever expected to.
I really liked everything about how it was run and set up.
The one thing I guess I could complain about, though not really
because I did enjoy it, was that some of the readings were quite long.
Only really some of the links, but maybe it was a psychological
thing. I found the readings
in the main module text much more easier and enjoyable then some of the
lengthy links. Maybe if the
links were in the main module part I wouldn't have thought them as
difficult. Or it could be the professors way of writing that I found
easier to read. But overall I
would rate this a grade A course. I
especially liked the disscusions with other classmates.
I know what you mean about reading from the
computer screen. After the
first week I developed a twitch in one eye.
I started copying the modules and found it a lot
easier to read when it was in hard copy form.
I thought I was the only one who didn't really
enjoy the course links. In this type of course, the students cant really
speak privately to find out what we are all thinking. My eyes would start
to get fuzzy and go cross after a while of reading the links. Mark you are
correct though, we could have gone to the library. Its kind of nice to
hear that someone else thought the same as I did.
Subject: a little problem
I read the text online too, maybe that's why I had
a little trouble. It's good
to know I'm not the only one that found the reading a little troublesome.
Make the course better? I think it is great!
I think this course is very well structured.
I feel that the response time was appropriate and efficient, the
lecture notes were well structured and the professor was great at
agree with the dictionary idea though.
I was stuck with a lot of the words.
I was also another one with the dictionary open at all times.
would work the best would be the instant message idea.
To go on a certain time. I
find that some students must be on when I am on, because our response time
is so fast.
not know what to expect in the learning area of this course.
I was told that philosophy would be helpful in everyday life and
that I should definitely take it. I didn't know what I was going to learn but I did learn a
labor at first was a lot. I
did consider dropping it thinking I would not have enough time. But
I learned how the professor liked things and I learned how to write my
essays efficiently . I also learned time management, and how it would work in this
I didn't necessarily find answers to questions i had, i found a way of thinking that was effective and was easy to accomplish in everyday life. I find myself asking more questions and trying to figure things our in greater detail. Thank you to all students who participated in answering these questions we all have. And that you to the professor who showed us the way!!!
liked the discussions, I think they were very illuminating about how people
think, and it also forced me to think and re-evaluate my usual opinions
about things, it forced me to stop and ask a question: why do I actually
believe that, or act as if that was what I believe?
reading were sometimes repetitious between mini-lectures and the links
that were provided, so it was requiring more time,
also if we discuss certain philosophers and the link is going on and on about his biography and titles of his works etc but does not really say what his ideas were , this is not what I expect from a link.
agree with you about some of the readings being the repetitious. I did
however find that it helped some what in driving some of the information
home. A good amount of this stuff was a tough read, at least for me.
Subject: Evaluation of course
I think at first this course was overwhelming to
me - perhpas I could have used a little more encouragement - I felt like I
was not getting it - but as time went on it became clearer. I started to
see things that I was not able to see at first. I found myself obsessed
all day thinking about getting home & getting on line to see the
discussions & see who had responded - Mark's idea about instant
message feature would really help with the flow of discussions.
The outline & modules were very helpful as were the course
expectations. The mix of
readings & discussions helped to move things along.
The discussions definitely helped with the written assignments. I think this course was stimulating and got my mind to start
working harder - I can get lazy & comfortable at times - this made me
move! It made me think & I am still thinking each & every day!
Subject: true true....
Subject: I agree
I came into this course with a set of beliefs that
I thought would stay with me forever but I am leaving with an open mind
and no one set of beliefs. I
think this course was great and opened my mind to a entire new outlook on
everything. I thought the
workload and how the class was set up was great and their is no need for
changes. I feel all the goals of the professor and of myself were met.
I feel the best part of the course was the discussion areas where
we each were able to converse with each other and ask questions.
It helps a lot to see what other people think because that helps us
open our minds to other things. This class def.
helped me learn how to go about getting the answers to the
questions that I ask. Even
though half of them may never be answered.
Subject: The course
When I first signed up for this course I did not take it because it was required for graduation (for me its not). I took the course because it was about a subject that I knew nothing about and I wanted to see if I liked the material before I took any other courses like this later in life. I did not expect the course to require so much time, but I do understand why time is needed. This course covers many topics in a short amount of time. I liked the whole online format of the class and I had no problems with it. I think having the lecture materials linked to other websites worked out really well. Many of my in-person classes at school use books that have web links that no one ever uses and I got a chance to see what they offer. The were a lot of discussions in this course and it was hard to keep up with all of them, but I understand that this is a summer class and it is quicker and more demanding than a full semester class. I think having students cite passages from their text is not needed for an online class, since many of us did not buy the text book. But if I had to take this class all over again I would encourage every student to buy the textbook, because it would make it a lot easier to read and study the materials.
Subject: Discussion 2
There are issues that arise that create a conflict between
individual rights and the rights of the group.
The issue of wearing a helmet on a motorcycle is one example that
draws many different social theories into the spotlight.
The arguments vary far and wide.
A utilitarian would say that if people wearing helmets brought the
most amount of happiness to the most amount of people, then that is the
direction the government should be directed, on the other hand if the
opposite were true then the opposite approach should be taken.
A libertarian would approach the issue by asking if wearing a
helmet dealt with a threat to their security or their property.
Since an individual wearing a helmet does not have any bearing, the
government should not get involved.
A Rawlsian feels each person is to have an equal right to the most
extensive total system of equal basic liberties compatible with a similar
system of liberty for all. Social
and economic inequalities are to be arranged so that they are both:
to the greatest benefit of the least advantaged, consistent with
the just savings principle, and attached to offices and positions open to
all under conditions of fair equality of opportunity.
So as long as people were equal under the law it would be justified
to make such a law.
A Marxist feels that all property belongs to the state and that it
is the governments job to be sure that all people are treated the same
regardless of class. Such a
thing as a helmet law would be dictated by what the government felt was
While there are many theories that deal with personal versus group rights, it seems as if there is no clear answer
Subject: bettering the course
I took this course because I needed three credits.
I just had a baby and wanted to try to get back into the swing of
things so that I can graduate possibly next summer.
I found this course challenging and there were times I wanted to
give up, but felt that I was caving in to the pressure.
I enjoyed learning about the topics covered.
I think for the beginning of the course, learning about the
philosophers like Socrates, Plato etc., I had trouble reading the text and
the lecture notes. I did not
understand what was being said in the readings.
I think if you can elaborate a little bit more for those who really
don't get it, it would be easier to answer questions that are being
presented for answering. Also,
I found towards the end of the class I started doing a little better
because you broke out piece by piece what you wanted answered in the
essay. At the beginning I
felt that the question was very open and a couldn't get precise enough to
answer the question the way you wanted.
Overall, I am glad the class is over, but glad
that I was able to take something from it.
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